Looking for Wins? IP, GB%, and Strikeouts are Key

Starting pitching is often the bane of fantasy teams. Owners can't stand most of their starters and they wish their league didn't have an innings floor so they could draft all relievers (especially in K9 leagues). They usually fail to do well in the wins category anyway...

If the paragragh above describes your thinking or even comes close I've got some questions and answers for you.

How does a pitcher get a win?

1. He pitches at least five innings.
2. He is the pitcher of record, when his team takes the lead for the final time.
3. The bullpen doesn't blow it.

When you put together your pitching staff are you actually looking for wins?

1. Many of the owners I speak to are looking for pitchers on teams that score lots of runs.
2. They avoid pitchers on teams like the Royals and Indians (teams that lose a lot) and on teams like the Rangers and Rockies (play in offensive ballparks).
   
3. They usually find themselves in the middle of the pack in most pitching categories. They are avoiding risk but not grabbing skills.
   

Do the last two questions correlate in any way?

1. No.
2. Seriously, no.

So, what should you look for in a starting pitcher?

1. First, acknowledge that wins are a weak statistical category and have only a little relation to a pitcher's skill. Now, you're saying "a little? I thought it was no relation. " Think of it like this. If you or I went out to face the Yankees' lineup, we would have to get extremely lucky to get even one win with the world's greatest defense and pitching in the world's greatest pitcher's park. As a pitcher's skill level increases the chance of getting wins increases. So, yes, there is at least a little skill involved in gaining wins.
2. Innings. The more innings the better the chance of gaining wins. An innings horse is most likely to pitch at least five innings. An innings horse will pitch through the innings covered by the weakest park of his team's bullpen. An innings horse just might pitch a complete game and leave just the final score out of his hands.
   
3. I have a league mate that HATES adding innings to his staff. He believes that with innings come bad innings, and a poor pitcher with lots of innings will just drag his team down. That's kinda true. This is why you have to make certain that the pitchers you draft or buy at auction have certain skills. The ability to strikeout batters and the ability to induce weak groundballs.
4. Strikeouts are the key. As you may realize, strikeouts measure a pitchers ability to keep the batter from putting the ball in play. When the ball is in play, the outcome is very difficult to control. Some would say impossible, but that isn't true. Some pitchers are very good at inducing infield fly balls, which are usually as good as outs. I do my best to avoid pitchers with less than a 7.5 K9.
5. Groundballs are a good things. Especially the weakly hit ones. Even more so when they come from a pitcher with a high strikeout rate. This means that there are even fewer well hit balls in play than from a pitcher that does just one or the other. I do my best to draft a staff with a collective groundball rate of 45 percent or better.
   

Here is a list of the 31 starting pitchers with at least 190 innings pitched in 2010 and at least a 7.5 K9 rate. Look for young pitchers who finished the 2010 season with 140-160 innings that fit this criterion and you're looking at future aces you may get at a slight discount. But that's another article.

Name	Team	W	L	GS	IP	K/9	BABIP	GB%	ERA	FIP
Tim Lincecum	Giants	16	10	33	212.1	9.79	0.31	48.90%	3.43	3.15
Jon Lester	Red Sox	19	9	32	208	9.74	0.289	53.60%	3.25	3.13
Jonathan Sanchez	Giants	13	9	33	193.1	9.54	0.252	41.50%	3.07	4
Francisco Liriano	Twins	14	10	31	191.2	9.44	0.331	53.60%	3.62	2.66
Jered Weaver	Angels	13	12	34	224.1	9.35	0.276	36.00%	3.01	3.06
Clayton Kershaw	Dodgers	13	10	32	204.1	9.34	0.275	40.10%	2.91	3.12
Cole Hamels	Phillies	12	11	33	208.2	9.1	0.289	45.40%	3.06	3.67
Justin Verlander	Tigers	18	9	33	224.1	8.79	0.286	41.00%	3.37	2.97
Colby Lewis	Rangers	12	13	32	201	8.78	0.275	37.90%	3.72	3.55
Ryan Dempster	Cubs	15	12	34	215.1	8.69	0.294	47.40%	3.85	3.99
Ubaldo Jimenez	Rockies	19	8	33	221.2	8.69	0.271	48.80%	2.88	3.1
Max Scherzer	Tigers	12	11	31	195.2	8.46	0.297	40.30%	3.5	3.71
Felix Hernandez	Mariners	13	12	34	249.2	8.36	0.263	53.90%	2.27	3.04
Adam Wainwright	Cardinals	20	11	33	230.1	8.32	0.275	51.60%	2.42	2.86
James Shields	Rays	13	15	33	203.1	8.28	0.341	41.30%	5.18	4.24
Dan Haren	- - -	12	12	35	235	8.27	0.311	40.50%	3.91	3.71
Wandy Rodriguez	Astros	11	12	32	195	8.22	0.303	47.90%	3.6	3.5
Roy Oswalt	- - -	13	13	32	211.2	8.21	0.253	45.70%	2.76	3.27
David Price	Rays	19	6	31	208.2	8.11	0.27	43.70%	2.72	3.42
Chad Billingsley	Dodgers	12	11	31	191.2	8.03	0.301	49.60%	3.57	3.07
Roy Halladay	Phillies	21	10	33	250.2	7.86	0.29	51.20%	2.44	3.01
Cliff Lee	- - -	12	9	28	212.1	7.84	0.287	41.90%	3.18	2.58
Ian Kennedy	Diamondbacks	9	10	32	194	7.79	0.256	37.10%	3.8	4.33
Edwin Jackson	- - -	10	12	32	209.1	7.78	0.313	49.40%	4.47	3.86
Ted Lilly	- - -	10	12	30	193.2	7.71	0.247	29.50%	3.62	4.27
Tommy Hanson	Braves	10	11	34	202.2	7.68	0.286	41.80%	3.33	3.31
Gio Gonzalez	Athletics	15	9	33	200.2	7.67	0.274	49.30%	3.23	3.78
Shaun Marcum	Blue Jays	13	8	31	195.1	7.6	0.279	38.40%	3.64	3.74
C.J. Wilson	Rangers	15	8	33	204	7.5	0.266	49.20%	3.35	3.56

Down the Stretch: The Top Starting Pitchers of 2010

Stephen Strasburg is already at the top of this list. However, he still needs to show he has the durability to produce over the course of a long season. Francisco Liriano is back to being one of the best in the game two years after his Tommy John Surgery. Josh Johnson is also proof that TJS is no longer a death sentence for a pitcher. It is however, hell on keeper lists.

Name	Team	K/9	BB/9	K/BB	HR/9	WHIP	BABIP	LOB%	ERA	FIP	xFIP
Stephen Strasburg	Nationals	12.18	2.25	5.41	0.66	1.07	0.338	72.70%	2.91	2.1	2.17
Francisco Liriano	Twins	9.81	2.97	3.3	0.18	1.28	0.35	72.80%	3.45	2.33	3
Josh Johnson	Marlins	8.7	2.2	3.95	0.37	1.08	0.301	78.90%	2.36	2.52	3.26
Cliff Lee	- - -	7.78	0.57	13.73	0.67	0.98	0.301	69.60%	3.09	2.55	3.28
Roy Halladay	Phillies	8.09	1.09	7.44	0.7	1.02	0.301	82.20%	2.22	2.75	2.89
Adam Wainwright	Cardinals	8.09	2.22	3.64	0.52	1	0.265	81.20%	2.18	2.86	3.18
Brett Anderson	Athletics	6.71	1.43	4.7	0.43	1.13	0.307	74.90%	2.86	2.9	3.36
Yovani Gallardo	Brewers	9.78	3.79	2.58	0.5	1.34	0.332	72.20%	3.28	2.99	3.49
Felix Hernandez	Mariners	8.46	2.47	3.43	0.62	1.11	0.29	76.40%	2.47	3.03	3.26
Tommy Hanson	Braves	8.29	2.76	3	0.47	1.26	0.322	70.30%	3.53	3.12	4.07
Ubaldo Jimenez	Rockies	8.29	3.51	2.36	0.43	1.1	0.26	77.40%	2.66	3.13	3.75
Mat Latos	Padres	9.08	2.52	3.6	0.82	0.98	0.252	84.00%	2.33	3.15	3.4
Brandon Morrow	Blue Jays	10.81	4.06	2.66	0.66	1.36	0.341	69.10%	4.39	3.18	3.7
Anibal Sanchez	Marlins	7.04	3.16	2.23	0.36	1.31	0.312	71.40%	3.16	3.2	4.21
Chad Billingsley	Dodgers	7.58	3.08	2.46	0.43	1.32	0.32	71.50%	3.7	3.21	3.91
Clayton Kershaw	Dodgers	9.53	3.94	2.42	0.55	1.25	0.298	76.30%	3.07	3.22	3.89
Jon Lester	Red Sox	9.17	3.2	2.86	0.66	1.18	0.295	74.40%	3.26	3.24	3.35
Felipe Paulino	Astros	7.95	4.5	1.77	0.21	1.51	0.338	61.40%	4.4	3.24	4.59
Zack Greinke	Royals	7.66	1.97	3.89	0.78	1.2	0.313	67.20%	3.83	3.3	3.72
Jered Weaver	Angels	9.78	2.43	4.02	1.09	1.11	0.295	75.90%	3.21	3.31	3.55
Hiroki Kuroda	Dodgers	7.23	2.22	3.26	0.7	1.22	0.309	68.70%	3.56	3.32	3.6
Roy Oswalt	- - -	8.26	2.38	3.47	0.83	1.1	0.28	74.50%	3.22	3.34	3.48
Justin Verlander	Tigers	8.45	3.33	2.54	0.63	1.24	0.298	73.30%	3.65	3.34	4.06
Tim Lincecum	Giants	9.46	3.5	2.7	0.77	1.35	0.331	75.10%	3.72	3.35	3.43
Tom Gorzelanny	Cubs	8.2	3.98	2.06	0.48	1.45	0.334	70.40%	3.82	3.35	4.21
Jaime Garcia	Cardinals	7.07	3.44	2.06	0.45	1.25	0.287	75.70%	2.42	3.37	3.74
John Danks	White Sox	6.95	2.78	2.5	0.59	1.15	0.275	73.10%	3.31	3.37	4.05
Gavin Floyd	White Sox	7.44	2.76	2.7	0.66	1.32	0.32	70.20%	3.91	3.4	3.76
Colby Lewis	Rangers	8.7	2.79	3.12	0.84	1.17	0.291	75.60%	3.4	3.4	3.89
Ricky Romero	Blue Jays	7.76	3.18	2.44	0.59	1.28	0.304	72.20%	3.5	3.4	3.6
David Price	Rays	8.33	3.71	2.25	0.57	1.26	0.292	76.20%	2.97	3.41	4
R.A. Dickey	Mets	6.06	2.21	2.74	0.64	1.17	0.285	77.70%	2.64	3.44	3.69
Johan Santana	Mets	6.59	2.55	2.58	0.67	1.18	0.283	79.10%	2.94	3.48	4.34
Brett Myers	Astros	7.03	2.58	2.73	0.76	1.23	0.297	75.40%	3.08	3.51	3.76
Jeff Francis	Rockies	5.73	1.94	2.95	0.68	1.27	0.31	64.40%	4.56	3.53	3.96
Jhoulys Chacin	Rockies	9.28	4.27	2.18	0.64	1.28	0.291	70.50%	3.63	3.53	3.72
Doug Fister	Mariners	4.99	1.69	2.96	0.63	1.25	0.305	67.40%	3.87	3.57	4.21
Jason Hammel	Rockies	7.32	2.4	3.05	0.82	1.3	0.32	69.40%	4.35	3.57	3.75
Matt Cain	Giants	7.01	2.81	2.49	0.72	1.14	0.269	74.80%	3.07	3.57	4.38
Wandy Rodriguez	Astros	7.69	2.97	2.59	0.73	1.35	0.324	67.50%	4	3.58	3.8
CC Sabathia	Yankees	7.24	2.93	2.48	0.72	1.22	0.288	77.00%	3.02	3.59	3.88
Clayton Richard	Padres	7.1	3.61	1.97	0.56	1.4	0.316	76.10%	3.55	3.6	4.13
C.J. Wilson	Rangers	7.35	4.01	1.84	0.44	1.21	0.263	74.10%	3.02	3.6	4.25
Clay Buchholz	Red Sox	6.2	3.42	1.81	0.45	1.2	0.265	79.40%	2.26	3.61	4.21
Gio Gonzalez	Athletics	7.49	3.97	1.89	0.56	1.27	0.279	75.80%	3.24	3.63	4.14
Travis Wood	Reds	7.19	2.49	2.88	0.88	0.98	0.23	67.20%	3.38	3.71	4.33
Dallas Braden	Athletics	5.64	1.77	3.18	0.82	1.15	0.281	70.60%	3.49	3.72	4.16
Carlos Silva	Cubs	6.33	1.92	3.3	0.83	1.24	0.306	72.40%	3.92	3.73	3.95
Ricky Nolasco	Marlins	8.5	1.73	4.9	1.33	1.23	0.323	72.90%	4.22	3.75	3.48
Carl Pavano	Twins	5.19	1.53	3.39	0.84	1.16	0.285	73.90%	3.56	3.76	3.93
John Ely	Dodgers	6.67	2.82	2.36	0.79	1.32	0.306	65.80%	4.63	3.78	3.98
Shaun Marcum	Blue Jays	7.51	1.97	3.82	1.13	1.13	0.284	73.60%	3.7	3.83	3.94
Chris Carpenter	Cardinals	6.98	2.49	2.8	0.88	1.15	0.275	79.90%	2.88	3.83	3.81
Luke Hochevar	Royals	6.58	3.23	2.04	0.69	1.38	0.312	62.40%	4.96	3.84	4.22
Joel Pineiro	Angels	5.69	2.19	2.59	0.89	1.31	0.306	71.70%	4.18	3.88	3.87
Livan Hernandez	Nationals	4.74	2.88	1.65	0.59	1.31	0.288	75.70%	3.36	3.89	4.77
Tim Hudson	Braves	4.86	2.89	1.68	0.56	1.1	0.239	83.50%	2.28	3.89	4
Max Scherzer	Tigers	8.34	3.61	2.31	0.93	1.31	0.297	72.80%	3.73	3.91	4.02
Dan Haren	- - -	8.43	1.82	4.63	1.39	1.32	0.339	72.00%	4.45	3.91	3.63
Jonathon Niese	Mets	7.17	2.8	2.56	0.91	1.33	0.313	78.80%	3.33	3.92	3.93
Brett Cecil	Blue Jays	6.44	2.84	2.27	0.9	1.23	0.28	72.80%	3.8	3.92	4.18
Mike Pelfrey	Mets	5.2	3.11	1.67	0.6	1.45	0.316	74.00%	3.82	3.93	4.41
Cole Hamels	Phillies	9.22	2.71	3.4	1.3	1.23	0.304	81.10%	3.47	3.95	3.49
Andy Pettitte	Yankees	7	2.96	2.37	0.93	1.2	0.274	80.70%	2.88	3.96	4.05
Daisuke Matsuzaka	Red Sox	7.86	4.12	1.91	0.76	1.32	0.286	70.80%	4.19	3.96	4.64
Jason Vargas	Mariners	5.68	2.49	2.29	0.89	1.2	0.273	75.90%	3.43	3.97	4.7
Bud Norris	Astros	9.27	3.83	2.42	1.04	1.43	0.331	63.80%	5.03	3.98	3.91
Scott Baker	Twins	7.42	1.96	3.79	1.25	1.33	0.327	71.80%	4.63	3.99	4
Jair Jurrjens	Braves	6.25	2.94	2.13	0.85	1.29	0.291	67.60%	4.36	3.99	4.52
John Lackey	Red Sox	6.05	3.24	1.87	0.74	1.49	0.328	70.50%	4.51	4	4.51

Searching for a Pitching Upgrade?

Hi Jon

Looking to improve my pitching and capitalize on what I think is a buy-low / sell-high.

I deal:
Carl Crawford, Billy Butler, Scott Baker and Carlos Marmol

I get:
Justin Upton, Juan Pierre, Dan Haren and Huston Street.

I'm thinking I net even on steals, saves and Ks and am sacrificing RBI and Average for improved pitching ratios and upside potential in both Upton and Haren.

What do you think?

I think we should start by looking at the stats of the players involved.

Carl Crawford - .310/.373/.488, with seven homers, 57 runs, 38 RBI and 27 stolen bases

Crawford seems to be past his shoulder problems. He hit .296/.380/.481 with 12 stolen bases in June. The last seven days he has hit .364/.364/.455 so he doesn't seem to be slowing down at all.

Billy Butler - .322/.377/.480, with 8 homers, 40 runs, 42 RBI and zero stolen bases

Billy Butler is having a nice season. He might be slower to develop the power we'd like to see out of our first basemen but there is very little to complain about here. For June he is batting .284/.333/.461 and .304/.385/.478 the lat seven days.

Scott Baker - 4.97 ERA/4.07 FIP/3.81 xFIP with six wins, 7.78 K9, 1.78 BB9, and 1.41 HR9

June has not been kind to Scott Baker. But most of the problem as illustrated by his xFIP has been poor luck. With a regression closer to his FIP seeming likely, I think he will have an excellent second half.

Carlos Marmol - 2.27 ERA/2.32 FIP/ 2.84 xFIP with two wins, 14 saves, 16.65 K9, 6.31 BB9 0.25 HR9

Marmol isn't always great in non-save situations. The Cubs losing ways don't help. However, Marmol has provided excellent numbers and a decent save total. He has a pretty firm grip on the closer role at this point.

Now, the return package:

Justin Upton - .269/.355/.472 with 14 homers, 48 runs, 39 RBI, 11 stolen bases

Upton began the season rather slow but has hit .312/.423/.548 with six homers and three stolen bases in June. Crawford has been better than him thus far but if Upton keeps up his current pace he will have been the better player at the end of the season.

Juan Pierre - .249/.317/ .279 with zero homers, 39 runs, 13 RBI and 29 stolen bases

Juan Pierre is not a great hitter. However he has value to fantasy teams because the White Sox let him run wild. Unfortunately he provides zero power and not much run production. I would not expect his numbers to improve but they shouldn't decline much either.

Dan Haren - 4.56 ERA/3.90 FIP/3.43 xFIP with seven wins, 8.90 K9, 1.70 BB9, 1.47 HR9

Haren has not been as bad as Baker but they both have had rotten luck. This is especially surprising in the year of the pitcher. Haren has not been particularly great of late. He may be an upgrade over Baker but not a tremendous one.

Huston Street - his stats are irrelevant at this point

Street has just returned to the Rockies active roster after spending most of the season on the disabled list. I can ignore my code against trading for pitchers recently coming off the disabled list (even ones with shoulder injuries and a lot of bad injury history). However, I still have to point out that despite achieving his first save, manager Jim Tracy is insisting that the closer-by-committee is still in effect. This is not to say he won't re-earn the job, just that he does not yet have it secured.

In Conclusion
Whew...so. Our reader is looking for a pitching upgrade. There is probably one here, assuming Street stays healthy and becomes the closer again. Not an assumption I would make, but it is a fair possibility. It is a risk but one that is (as the reader surmised) at the cost of batting average, probably a few homers and some RBI production. I believe he'll actually gain in steals. But the actual difference in pitching is almost nothing. For perhaps a few points of ERA, you lose quite a bit if nothing changes.

The entire trade seems to hinge on Dan Haren pitching like the top ten pitcher he was expected to be. He has yet to show much of that Haren to this point. And although I don't really believe in labeling players first or second half players, Haren is definitely more of the later. Check out his last three years of stats:

By Day/Month	ERA	W	L	SV	SVO	G	GS	CG	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	SO	AVG
April	2.10	9	6	0	0	17	17	1	111.2	83	35	26	9	21	89	.203
May	3.07	6	4	0	0	16	16	0	111.1	88	38	38	11	19	103	.214
June	1.80	9	1	0	0	17	17	1	120.1	77	26	24	11	23	110	.180
July	2.77	10	3	0	0	16	16	1	107.1	99	39	33	6	23	99	.236
August	4.97	7	6	0	0	17	17	0	108.2	132	64	60	21	19	112	.295
September	4.38	4	6	0	0	16	16	1	102.2	122	53	50	11	27	101	.298
October	7.50	0	1	0	0	1	1	0	6.0	9	5	5	1	1	7	.346
Pre All-Star	2.34	27	13	0	0	56	56	3	385.0	284	115	100	33	70	342	.202
Post All-Star	4.33	18	14	0	0	44	44	1	283.0	326	145	136	37	63	279	.286

I would save my trade ammo for a more certain upgrade. I think the risk that nothing is gained in the desired areas is too strong in this deal. I would pass and look to acquire a pitcher performing better right now. Perhaps one of these guys:

Name	Team	K/9	BB/9	K/BB	HR/9	AVG	WHIP	BABIP	LOB%	ERA	FIP	E-F	xFIP
Francisco Liriano	Twins	9.67	2.46	3.93	0.18	.259	1.26	.355	71.9 %	3.47	2.20	1.27	3.01
Cliff Lee	Mariners	7.34	0.47	15.60	0.47	.235	0.92	.289	71.6 %	2.45	2.34	0.10	3.31
Josh Johnson	Marlins	8.92	2.25	3.96	0.33	.202	0.96	.270	81.9 %	1.83	2.47	-0.64	3.17
Roy Halladay	Phillies	7.75	1.18	6.59	0.69	.257	1.11	.315	80.3 %	2.42	2.85	-0.43	3.04
Tim Lincecum	Giants	10.16	3.65	2.79	0.52	.231	1.25	.319	75.9 %	3.13	2.88	0.25	3.22
Jered Weaver	Angels	10.45	2.12	4.92	0.97	.233	1.09	.311	75.3 %	3.01	2.93	0.08	3.22
Yovani Gallardo	Brewers	9.91	3.80	2.61	0.50	.223	1.23	.304	79.2 %	2.56	2.97	-0.41	3.46
Jon Lester	Red Sox	9.34	3.45	2.71	0.42	.205	1.11	.277	76.5 %	2.86	3.02	-0.16	3.44
Ubaldo Jimenez	Rockies	8.12	3.19	2.55	0.40	.199	1.05	.255	86.2 %	1.83	3.08	-1.24	3.68
Adam Wainwright	Cardinals	8.60	2.41	3.56	0.68	.213	1.03	.269	81.3 %	2.34	3.11	-0.77	3.28

Any other opinions on this deal out there? Feel free to leave your questions, comments or even complaints in the comment section.

2010 Free Agents: Starting Pitchers

Josh Beckett will definitely have his option picked up by the Boston Red Sox. But this list is a lot stronger than we've been led to believe by the bigger media guys. If I ran a team like the Washington Nationals I'd be all over Ben Sheets, Brandon Webb (if the D'Backs are actually dumb enough to let him go), Rich Harden, John Smoltz, Justin Duchscherer, and Randy Wolf. Sure, there is a bunch of risk there, but the upside is incredible and the discounts should be substantial.

Key Sleepers: Justin Duchscherer, Kelvim Escobar

Starting Pitchers
Brandon Backe HOU
Josh Beckett * BOS
Erik Bedard SEA (B)
Daniel Cabrera ARZ
Bartolo Colon CWS
Jose Contreras COL
Doug Davis ARZ (B)
Justin Duchscherer OAK (B)
Adam Eaton COL
Kelvim Escobar LAA
Jon Garland * LAD (B)
Tom Glavine ATL
Mike Hampton HOU
Rich Harden CHC (B)
Livan Hernandez WAS
Tim Hudson * ATL - got his wish Thursday after completing a three-year, $28 million extension that includes a fourth-year option for 2013.
Randy Johnson SF (B)
John Lackey LAA (A)
Cliff Lee * PHI (A)
Braden Looper * MIL (B)
Jason Marquis COL (B)
Kevin Millwood * TEX
Brett Myers PHI
Vicente Padilla * LAD (B)
Carl Pavano MIN (B)
Brad Penny SF - Buster Olney of ESPN.com reports the Cardinals have agreed to terms with Brad Penny on a one-year, $7.5 million.
Odalis Perez WAS
Andy Pettitte NYY (B) - Veteran left-hander Andy Pettitte and the New York Yankees have agreed to terms on a one-year contract worth $11.75 million, major league sources tell ESPN The Magazine's Buster Olney.
Joel Pineiro STL (B)
Sidney Ponson KC
Jason Schmidt LAD
John Smoltz STL
Tim Wakefield * BOS (B)
Jarrod Washburn DET
Todd Wellemeyer STL
Randy Wolf (A) - The Brewers on Wednesday succeeded in luring free agent left-hander Randy Wolf with a three-year contract that reportedly includes a club option for a fourth year. Other reports followed, including one in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, saying Wolf is guaranteed about $29 million. Other reports on the value of the contract's first three years ranged from $27 million to $30 million.

The Dodgers signed pitcher Josh Towers to a minor league deal worth $700K in the Majors, according to the AP.